The casual research I did on cholera outbreaks in Randolph County, Illinois produced suggestive evidence that the 1849 outbreak began near the Mississippi River and that the infected people either lived near the river or traveled to that location on business. So rather than the disease spreading, it may be that people were traveling to the disease and returning home with it. There is no evidence in that locality so far that it disproportionately affected people according to social rank, wealth or slave status. There is a monument near Germantown, Illinois thanking God that the cholera plague stopped there. Germantown is 40 miles east of the Mississippi River.
I expect measles outbreaks in the US to get worse as the baby boomers with natural immunity "age out" of the population leaving only people with the lesser vaccine immunity. The measles vaccine fails 5% of the time so that is a population of 16 million who had the vaccine but can get measles. The states where measles has broken out in recent years are primarily border states with high levels of unvaccinated immigrants. If Amish and Mennonites were the problem we would see a different geographic distribution of cases in alignment with those populations.
The measles outbreak in Texas is from a religious faction, Mennonites, who have never taken vaccines. So all the free healthcare and education isn’t going to change that. In Texas we also have a huge influx of illegal immigrants. Why were they not required to be up to date on vaccines before entering our country? Our children can’t easily attend school without being up to date or having an exemption but non citizens were free flowing in? That’s a huge part of this outbreaks cause.
I think one of the points of this conversation is to point out that it’s incredibly possible for our lavishly resourced government to make vaccines free and accessible for everyone, regardless of wealth or documentation. That goes for other forms of healthcare too. All of us are safer and more healthy when our neighbors are safer and more healthy, wouldn’t you say?
Sure that could be nice but not realistic. No I do not feel our government should be providing healthcare for everyone regardless of status. Immunization, that could be for everyone regardless of status. First our government has to earn back the trust it broke with vaccines and the way the covid vac was pushed out and on everyone. The hesitation that exists is directly related to the Government’s actions.
The casual research I did on cholera outbreaks in Randolph County, Illinois produced suggestive evidence that the 1849 outbreak began near the Mississippi River and that the infected people either lived near the river or traveled to that location on business. So rather than the disease spreading, it may be that people were traveling to the disease and returning home with it. There is no evidence in that locality so far that it disproportionately affected people according to social rank, wealth or slave status. There is a monument near Germantown, Illinois thanking God that the cholera plague stopped there. Germantown is 40 miles east of the Mississippi River.
I expect measles outbreaks in the US to get worse as the baby boomers with natural immunity "age out" of the population leaving only people with the lesser vaccine immunity. The measles vaccine fails 5% of the time so that is a population of 16 million who had the vaccine but can get measles. The states where measles has broken out in recent years are primarily border states with high levels of unvaccinated immigrants. If Amish and Mennonites were the problem we would see a different geographic distribution of cases in alignment with those populations.
The measles outbreak in Texas is from a religious faction, Mennonites, who have never taken vaccines. So all the free healthcare and education isn’t going to change that. In Texas we also have a huge influx of illegal immigrants. Why were they not required to be up to date on vaccines before entering our country? Our children can’t easily attend school without being up to date or having an exemption but non citizens were free flowing in? That’s a huge part of this outbreaks cause.
I think one of the points of this conversation is to point out that it’s incredibly possible for our lavishly resourced government to make vaccines free and accessible for everyone, regardless of wealth or documentation. That goes for other forms of healthcare too. All of us are safer and more healthy when our neighbors are safer and more healthy, wouldn’t you say?
Sure that could be nice but not realistic. No I do not feel our government should be providing healthcare for everyone regardless of status. Immunization, that could be for everyone regardless of status. First our government has to earn back the trust it broke with vaccines and the way the covid vac was pushed out and on everyone. The hesitation that exists is directly related to the Government’s actions.